An email to Harald Reksten concerning a question he had asked me:
Been thinking on your question a little more... did one or more of Robert's sons stay in Va to work the land?
Your Robert (II) married late. Was that because he stayed behind and ran the farm in Va?
Peter never acquired a land grant in SC (that I know of). Was that because he stayed behind in Va, and then later bought land in SC from someone else?
Did Thomas stay a while in Va but then move south later? His son John was born ca 1765 (pretty solid date), supposedly in SC.
Thomas could have stayed in Va and then gone back and forth, but then acquiring the other Va land in 1773 negated his need for a share in his father's land.
Another angle... Robert II and Peter may have been left the land since they stayed and worked it the most, thus earning their right to inherit it.
Another thought... Robert II and Peter were not listed as Loyalists from York Co SC. Why? I'm sure there's several possible reasons, but one could be that they were not living there all the time, or as vocal there due to their interests in Va. That said, Robert and Peter do later come down and buy up land, but that may have been due to the fact that the Loyalist factions of the family were being "driven out". I remember seeing a book at the SC Archives that documented that Joseph Black's land on Clarks Fork was confiscated and then resold in 1783. Did you know that? It's my understanding that Nathaniel Harrison's was, too. And George Julian, as well. Some of them got their lands back, but apparently Joseph Black didn't.
I need to get over to Randolph Co NC and search through their records and try to determine if those Pattersons there in 1790 were my Thomas and his clan or not. I've gotta be honest with you, I'm 50/50 on it right now. Normally, I'd be 20/80, meaning I think there's an 80% chance it was NOT him. I'm more like 10/90 on the Dorchester SC Thomas now. I've seen much of the records surrounding that Thomas and it just doesn't look like mine. It COULD have been, but this Randolph group seems more likely, for more reasons.
Back to the Va lands... this means those families around Muddy Creek, Linville Creek, etc are more likely to be the families those sons married into (Thomas, Robert II, Peter). Just a possibility we have to consider.
Wes
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ReplyDeleteFor a few years now, I have been of the opinion that when my Thomas Patterson sold his 60 acres on Clarks Fork (SC) to your Robert Patterson II in 1786, he was doing so in order to give the $$ to his own oldest son, John Patterson (my ancestor). John would have turned 21 that year.
I am now wondering if Thomas Patterson moved up to Randolph Co NC around 1781-82 when things got so hot and heavy in York Co SC, but in so doing, left his son John (aged 16 or 17 at that point) on the Clarks Fork land to maintain it (with or without the help of some of the other family members).
You see, John Patterson married Margaret "Peggy" Black about 1788 (at the latest). I am 90% sure that she was his 1st cousin, and a dau of Joseph Black and Sarah Patterson Black. I've even wondered if the Joseph Black family moved onto Thomas' land for a few years, since Joseph's was confiscated and sold to someone else in 1783. I know that Joseph Black and Thomas Patterson's lands bordered each other.
What I was going to say about Thomas moving up to Randolph, that's what the Julians did, or at least some of them. I know one of those Julians later married a dau of your Robert II, as well.
Wes